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The BEST Thing That Has EVER Happened!
Apr 28, 2008
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I know there seems to be a lot of negative talk around about PSI seminars, however I must say without a doubt that this is the BEST thing that has ever happened to me in my life. It has give me new direction and purpose. The program is designed to empower people to take charge of their lives and take positive action within their communities.

It bewilders me to see people thinking that community service, giving to others unconditionally, loving your fellow man, instilling better communication and listening skills, and healing one's soul could be such a bad thing!

I feel who are negitive about these classes have not truly understood the positive principles and ethics in this class. These classes are about individuals taking responsibility for themselves and their actions. Often times people do not make responsible decisions, like for instance not paying their telephone bill and car payment, and hence having these things taken away then blame PSI seminars for their victimhood. This is NOT some magical "cult" that fixes people or their problems! It is up to each individual to empower themselves to be more responsible and take charge in their lives to make a positive change.

I suggest those who feel "slighted" re-audit the basic (for FREE) and realign themselves with what it means to be happy about taking back their lives, telling the truth, and living a more giving life. Peace and love to all of you out there. I wish you a glorious day!

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1. Written by Brooke, on 10-05-2008 23:05

It may have been the best thing that ever happened to you but it cause a psychotic break for me. I destroyed my marriage because of this.

2. Written by Helen, on 08-05-2008 23:11

Here is a joke I found about life and PSI Seminars.  

 

Here is a little something someone sent me that is indisputable 

mathematical logic.  

 

 

 

What Makes 100%?  

What does it mean to give MORE 

than 100%?  

Ever wonder about those people who say they are giving more than 100%?  

We have all been to those meetings where someone wants you to give over 

100%.  

How about achieving 103%?  

What makes up 100% in life?  

 

Heres a little mathematical formula that might help you answer these 

questions:  

 

If:  

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z  

 

is represented as:  

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26.  

 

Then:  

 

H-A-R-D-W-O-R-K  

8+1+18+4+23+15+18+11 = 98% 

 

 

and  

 

 

K-N-O-W-L-E-D-G-E  

11+14+15+23+12+5+4+7+5 = 96% 

 

But , 

 

A-T-T-I-T-U-D-E  

1+20+20+9+20+21+4+5 = 100% 

 

And, 

 

B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T 

2+21+12+12+19+8+9+20 = 103% 

 

AND, look how far *** kissing will take you. 

 

A-S-S-K-I-S-S-I-N-G 

1+19+19+11+9+19+19+9+14+7 = 118% 

 

P-S-I-S-e-m-i-n-a-r-s 

16+19+9+19+5+13+9+14+1+18+19  

=132%  

 

So, one can conclude with mathematical certainty that While Hard work and Knowledge will get you close, and attitudewill get you there, its the BullshitandAss kissing, and PSI Seminars that will put you over the top.

3. Written by Regan, on 01-05-2008 21:37

I will say that I am disappointed that the men and women at PSI Seminars, who are vulnerable as I was, and still am, are being subjected to this nonsense. They will blame themselves for their circumstances and not realize that they can only control themselves, and not the actions of others. They think they are making a difference in the lives of others when in fact they are destroying the foundation of personal relationships of the members.  

 

While I have to commend Oprah for some of the things she has done, she has also done much to harm the minds of millions of people along with Larry King. NOBODY has done more to promote LGATs, "cult movies" like the Secret, Ramtha, PSI Seminars and a countless number of other LGAT’s shysters and new age frauds. She and Larry are the first place that the Gods of the Self-Help Industrial Complex go to when needing to promote a book, film or other project. Their totally non-critical, non-skeptical approach to every "Create Your Own Reality" guest is appalling.  

 

Please don’t fall for this PSI crap. It does more harm then good.

4. Written by Carlos, on 30-04-2008 22:42

"I must say without a doubt that this is the BEST thing that has ever happened to me in my life."  

 

If this is the BEST THING to happen in your life you must be a loser!!!!!!!

5. Written by Carlos, on 30-04-2008 22:41

They coerce you into buying their seminars at times when you are most suggestible, vulnerable and emotional. Some of their staff prey on people in the above situations 

 

(http://forum.culteducation.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=853). 

 

They use deceptive tactics to sell their seminars. People have experienced emotional and physical breakdowns; suicide attempts and psychotic episodes following poorly run LGAT sessions. That's what I have a problem with. 

 

Willhite died in the late 80's from an airplane crash and the ranch he bought at Clearwater Oaks became the central arena for P.S.I. work, continued by his widow Jane Willhite. It should be mentioned that there is an aura of 'mystery' surrounding the higher levels of training, with certain symbolic distinctions, the biggest being that of the eagle – as the eagle 'never gives up' and will dive for a fish one hundred times (etc) – and those who have completed the $4000 MLS /WLS (men / women's leadership seminars, which comes after PSI-7) receive a gold ring with an eagle's head as a mark of their education. Also, while at the Ranch one can see 'the house' where Jane Willhite lives upon a high ridge and I remember a staff member recounting how she was invited to visit... anyway, the seven-day course was fairly intensive, with a day devoted to ropes-course activities, but my overall impression was fatally marred when, later into the week, one of the facilitators asked "what are you doing here? You have the tools (e.g. the Basic) to control your life" – I found that profound in the sense that it seemed as if I wasn't learning anything really beyond from what I'd initially invested; P.S.I.-7, the 'necessary' course, seemed like a rehash when it was all said and done. $3000 can motivate a lot of justification, and in some ways I still feel the experience was worth it – I met and exchanged information with a number of interesting individuals, had the opportunity (as with the Basic) to have my own "poor-me" bullshit contrasted by people who had truly suffered greatly in their time (Child abuse victims etc) and were getting an enormous amount of catharsis from PSI's techniques. Also, I was recruited to raise $3000 dollars in the course of the week so our class (#300) could have an eagle-plaque on the Ranch's 'wall of fame'. I, who had money programs to begin with and hadn't managed to raise any money for this education from graduates, managed to succeed in this task ("suggested" by another and quickly assumed by all to be on my shoulders). True, I was working in an environment of high suggestibility – using P.S.I.'s business tactics to benefit P.S.I. and, by extension, the 60-odd people in my class – but this 'breakthrough' I count as valuable in the long run, if nothing else than as an interesting examination on how people can be influenced to reach for the checkbook.

6. Written by Larry, on 30-04-2008 21:42

How the Cult Works: Hypnotic Secrets 

So here's my expose on how and why the group worked: 

One of the really ingenious tactics they used was not to use any kind of promotion except for the very best of all: word of mouth. Everybody knows how strong word-of-mouth is, and anybody can tell you that's going to beat any paid advertisement. But these people went a step further- they had instilled it into their grads that they absolutely HAD to share this path to success with whoever they loved and cared most about. 

I thought that was pretty smart. Just think: if your closest friends and most beloved family members came begging you to do something, you'd surely listen to them and consider it over just about any other source in the world, wouldn't you? I mean, what if it was your parents? Your wife or husband? And that's exactly what I saw. One woman even brought her 8 year old daughter. 

As further proof that the seminar leaders found this angle to be absolutely critical, remember that nobody approached me before the meeting to give me a friendly hello. Why? Because I'd come alone- they had no convenient grad to use as an opportunity to springboard through to me. No, they concentrated on talking to the grads and getting through to THEIR guests. They knew full well that those people were the ones to work on, because they already had a very solid 'in'. Remember also that the lead guy took notice of me when I signed on and his first question was to ask who brought me. 

The Moderator: He was definitely 'built up' in the grads' mind as an authority figure; unquestioned, blindly accepted, and acknowledged as somebody who had total control and commanded total admiration of the group. Again, it was creepy to see the unabashed adulation for the guy- standing ovations, big vacant smiles and laughs at whatever he said. 

The moderator was also quite smart early on in his speech to disavow that the group was a cult or that it was shady, all the while acknowledging it was mysterious, wasn't it? In hypnosis, one great tactic is basically to acknowledge whatever the client says; all the while you lead them in the direction you want. He also made sure to let everybody know that they had a choice to say yes or no to this, but to request that you at least give a chance and listen with an open mind. Doing this puts the guests at ease and calms them, as well as creates an "illusion of choice." If you believe you have a choice, it relieves the pressure and you remove your mental blocks and defenses to whatever you're about to hear. 

Also, this talk was similar to our hypnotic pre-induction speech, in which we give to tell the client what is going to happen, what to expect, and demystify the process, etc. 

Most of the talk was quite vague and nebulous- the moderator almost never gave concrete ideas or facts, but rather couched everything in metaphoric and indistinct terms- these is completely the language of trance, especially that method practiced by Milton Erickson, who could basically hypnotize somebody without them really being aware of how it was working. The way it works is that the mind of the subject is distracted, trying to address and make sense of the vagueness, while the speaker continues, throwing out more stuff, slowly overwhelming the subject's critical mind and thought processes, until they just want to escape, which they do- into hyper suggestibility and hypnosis. 

The Theory of Mind diagram was more of the same- misdirection, vagueness, and giving an explanation of how the mind works. Again, we do something almost identical in hypnosis. It's part of the standard process. 

Bringing Up the Grads: This was just more of the adulation and praise and attention lavished on those who succeed in the group's terms. If they deviate or fail, they are punished, ridiculed, but once they make it through, they are accepted and rewarded by the group. These people who did stick it through probably have some issues on where they belong, or are looking for a place or group to have an identity with (In fact, the man I'd later talk to would tell me as much, saying that he was new in town, didn't have any friends, and was sort of lonely. I also thought it was curious he waited for a year to take the class, it was as if he had come at a more vulnerable time). 

Also, with this praise/reward, it becomes even more powerful when it's contrasted against earlier punishment methods- again, what better way to make somebody feel loved or appreciated than to first put them down? 

RESISTANCE: The major creepy moment. In the first two days, the grads admitted resistance to the group's exercises, but almost none for the 2nd two days. This suggests that the first couple days were completely about breaking down the grads, showing them they were insignificant, wrong, and fundamentally incorrect and deeply flawed. Of COURSE there would be resistance to that. Incidentally, in almost ANY hypnosis, there is resistance of some sort, even for very positive therapy, because the subconscious is grappling with suggestions for change and there's a consequent struggle as it grapples with integrating the hypnotherapist's suggestions. And hypnotherapists actually take resistance as a positive sign, because it means that the course of therapy is working.... 

So 'resistance' means that the lessons are sinking into the grads, and after two day's worth of these exercises they're open to all sorts of things, reflecting sadly over this deeply vulnerable self that has been exposed and open. They go home, probably feeling broken and beaten down. But there's not much time to reflect on that and think too critically about it, because after the second day ends (at midnight), they're back at 10am the next day for another round. So they have just enough time to sleep before they return- this limits the chance they have to think too much about it and try to get out of the seminar, which they probably won't, because they can't get a refund unless they tough it out for the full four days. So they reluctantly trudge back to the group, likely expecting more abuse and breaking-down exercises. 

But when they come back, there's a change: the group is using a new tactic! Now, they're focusing on acceptance, more positive things, likely telling them that they can change and have all they could ever want if they take the next courses and learn more what the group has to offer. And that day and the next are devoted to showing them acceptance and love, as well as heavily pitching their higher levels of courses. 

In fact, I'd suspect that the group doesn't really impart much, if any, lessons for success in the first seminar. I bet, as the first session in hypnosis is really to condition the subject for more hypnosis, that the group is really just priming the individual client for more and more sessions and seminars. 

Another thing that contributed to breaking down the individual's willpower and opening their suggestibility was the long hours. There are many ways to go into trance; the best known of which are things like dancing, chanting, singing (which I heard there was singing going on at these), and doing this for long periods of time. However, a lesser-known way of increasing suggestibility is by controlling the diet. Not just by fasting, but by affecting the blood sugar levels, by not eating, or eating too much. If you control the diet (which seems likely, since the first two days were held during typical dinner hours), you could affect blood sugar, making it drop and creating a subtle anxious, hyper suggestible state in your subjects. 

That said, when all was said and done by the 4th day, they had created 30 people who had 'learned' that this group was the key to success and changing their lives, and were also told to share this wondrous revelation with all the loved ones in their lives. This was reinforced again after the moderator finished talking and suggested that we turn to the people who brought us and ask them why they wanted us to take the class so badly. Again, they're using the power of word of mouth (from loved and trusted friends and family) to convince and tantalize the guests, so they can continue the cycle. 

So there you have it- of course, many different walks of life use these methods, but before you dismiss it, you have to admit that when a group is using all sorts of hypnotic manipulation tactics, whether or not they intend to, then they consequently must be practicing hypnotic manipulation, whether they intend to or not. 

I think I've made a pretty strong case that's what this group is obviously doing and using that leverage for the sole purpose of making a lot of money from their seminars. 

Oh, and here's another bit of evidence why I doubt their sincerity: Part of their name/motto is about people working synergistically together. You'd think with a focus like that, what better synergy could you get than a couple of their grads partnering up? Or better yet, a big group of them networking within each other, buttressing and backing each other up? What a strong, powerful bond, right? 

But when I asked "A" if he was going to stay in touch with his fellow grads, who we had just been hearing had some sort of collective epiphany all together, he reacted like the thought had never really occurred to him. "Hm, I guess so, that might be good," he said hesitatingly.

7. Written by Sam, on 29-04-2008 21:57

I just read an email sent by a PSI member where she is telling everyone in her group that "PSI is the best love money can buy." What a joke.

8. Written by Nancy, on 29-04-2008 21:49

To the original poster:  

 

I was involved with PSI for three years until I realized I was duped with this crap. I felt empowered too until I realized what I lost on the way. I gave away my husband and family. I tried to recruit my family and friends to this and the statement "take the basic" was the catch phase of the day.  

 

Please get some help away from this because you sound just like I did when I fell for this.

9. Written by Wayne, on 29-04-2008 01:45

"The program is designed to empower people to take charge of their lives and take positive action within their communities."  

 

This person sounds like another mindless drone of PSI.  

 

Beware of PSI. It will destroy your relationships with your "true family and friends."

10. Written by Jon, on 29-04-2008 01:02

Cults, wonderful on the outside but on the inside are very manipulating. Cult leaders are desperate to trick you into joining. They are after your obedience, your time and your money. 

 

Cults use sophisticated mind control and recruitment techniques that have been refined over time. Beware of thinking that you are immune from cult involvement, the cults have millions of members around the world who once thought they were immune, and still don't know they are in a cult! To spot a cult you need to know how they work and you need to understand the techniques they use. Teaching you these things is what this article is all about.





 
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