Dan O Qxk

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| map-marker Clearlake Oaks, California

Had a great experience.

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I had a great experience at both the PSI Basic seminar and PSI 7. No, I didn't go all full tilt cult like some people claim.

I haven't been involved with them in almost two decades, but what I got from them I still apply today. You know how some people think any salesperson at a store who dares to even greet them at the door is pushy, money-grubbing *** only out to get them to spend their life savings? Those sorts of people tend to look at groups like PSI as cults. I don't see PSI that way.

They didn't get me to liquidate my IRA, they didn't get me to mortgage the house, and when I was done, I was done. There was no pressure to continue, no Scientology-like shaming from people that were still involved. I'm friends to this day with many of the people I met at PSI. I think if you're in a rut, a group like PSI is going to be a less expensive alternative to, say, Tony Robbins.

(Note - I've done a couple of Tony's courses, too - PSI and Tony Robbins each have their merits.) I'd say if you're the crunchy granola-type, PSI is more likely for you. If you're urbane, Tony Robbins might be more your speed. But they're both teaching similar things, even though they are each definitely distinct as to the specifics of what is taught and how it's taught. PSI, I think, provides good value.

Back to the earlier point, though - if you're looking to make a breakthrough in your life, PSI could be for you. But - and I don't need you to convince me so much as be really, really honest with yourself about this - if you're generally a suspicious person, or if you frequently think people are out to take advantage of you, don't go to PSI. You'll think they're a cult.

They're not. But no matter what they do, some people are always going to think so.

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Pros:
  • Courses help clear mental roadblocks to success
  • Courses provide innovative ways for creating a bias for action
  • Courses provide useful tools and insights for self examination
Cons:
  • Enthusiastic staff upsells can rub some the wrong way
  • Just not for everyone
  • Bit new agey

User's recommendation: If you believe the universe is a generally good place, PSI can be a great place to help you get past the mental roadblocks that may be holding you back.

Robin R Xdq

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Poor experience

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Original review updated Jul 10, 2024

I was a young man with severe trauma. I associated my sister's drug-addicted illnesses as my own fault and doing.

I broke wide open and needed mentorship, but instead, I was judged by staff as some attention seeker. This program is good for business people who want to excel and be held accountable. However, when it comes to true, authentic and heart-conscious mentorship, this program is as cold as ice. Maybe it differs elsewhere, but here in Vancouver, I was left with *** in my heart and shame for letting my turmoil surface, causing discomfort for others.

Matt Chan rubbed me the wrong way on multiple occasions. I think he's more interested in getting paid by PSI than in leading a wholesome organization. As a young man with very little parenting, I've struggled incredibly. This organization could have been a turning point in my life if its knowledge had been associated with care and consciousness for my well-being.

Instead, it left me with more depression and anxiety. I wouldn't recommend this program to anyone. But again, if you're hungry for success, they do teach win-win business ethics and can help identify your subconscious blocks.

The issue is there's zero follow-up or counseling for sensitive individuals who might be blaming themselves for things that were ultimately not within their control. If they had any mental health resources for follow-up, this program could have been life-changing.

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Pros:
  • Good information to reflect on your inner world
Cons:
  • Poor attention to customers
  • Figure it out on your own mentality

Preferred solution: Apology

Anonymous
map-marker Corvallis, Oregon

Participated in this scam 40+ years ago...cannot believe they are still husking!

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This is a scam that needs to be irradiated! They lure you in with the promise of being a better self, a better vessel to society at large.

In reality, all they are is a bunch of money grubbing/grabbing people at every level of the pyramid scheme they are running.

Everyone involved with this company should be ashamed of themselves for using others for their own gain! "Live each day like it is the last day of your life"...just make sure you make out a check to us!

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User's recommendation: Stay very far away!! Don't believe one ounce of their hype!

Steve H Jzz
map-marker Tucson, Arizona

Ruined marriage by facilitating an affair

I'm in disbelief that this cult organization is still being allowed to operate anywhere in the world. My two daughters, son-in-law, my wife, and I enrolled in the basic course in Phoenix about 10 years ago.

After completing the basic course, I saw through the multilevel aspects of this scam you're running. Unfortunately, one daughter who was married, had two children and was pregnant with a third child, didn't listen to me and she and her husband continued signing up for more and more advanced classes, paying thousands of dollars that they didn't have. She and her husband were split into different groups at one advanced class. Her husband was matched up with a divorced woman and soon started an affair with that woman and left my pregnant daughter and two children.

Your organization continued facilitating this relationship my son-in-law was having. My family spent over a year living in *** My health was impacted negatively by this separation and I've never fully recovered. I'm shocked you're still in business selling this scam.

All of you involved should be ashamed of yourselves. Before I leave this earth, I hope to see PSI stopped as you ruin many lives.

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User's recommendation: Do not trust these people, somehow they have gotten away with this multi level marketing scam.

GS Ykx

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Warning to others

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I have a child with someone who went through most, or all of PSI.

We met sometime after she took the basic. Then she went to the ranch for a week, things werent the same after.

She became pregnant right away, and the long and short of it is that she had "her" baby. She is now 5 years old. Ive sent about $70k in child support, and spent about $60k on lawyers. All just to see my child every second weekend.

I believe PSI made her very self focused, and she truly believed that she could manifest any situation just by wanting it.

The course took her money, and messed up her mind. Her life is a mess, and she takes care of her handful of kids from a handful of dads.

She has tried to get me to do the basic several times. It was directly tied to extra access to my child.

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Cons:
  • Bankruptcy
  • Emotional confusion

User's recommendation: Stay away

Denise S Fgt

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| map-marker Las Vegas, Nevada

Treatment from seminar facilitator and failure to refund.

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PSI Seminars - Treatment from seminar facilitator and failure to refund.

Letter I sent to the PSI staff. Instead of a refund, they invited me back.

LOL

To the PSI Basic Seminar Staff ~

This letter is to express my disappointment with my experience during the PSI Basic Seminar in Las Vegas, January 20-22, 2023. Specifically, my concerns relate to the seminar facilitator, Fred. Throughout the seminar, Fred promoted his accomplishments and behaviors. His relationship endeavors where if he knew a womans last name, he was in the relationship for too long.

How degrading to women. However, Fred took this as a platform to brag. As he also did with his income, living location and the fact he drives expensive cars. Great for him.

While most people he spoke to gathered the funds to attend this seminar. We reached out to PSI to gain insight on how to overcome obstacles that became roadblocks in our lives. Not to have our presenter take time from our opportunity to learn. This is not the stage for Fred to gloat and boast.

In addition, Freds interactions with others in the seminar were harsh, cut people off, and demeaning. I felt embarrassed for some members of the seminar as Fred attacked what members of the group were sharing. I understand he was attempting to make a point, or to promote a unique perspective, but he did not need to use the tone he used.

Freds harsh demeanor became a punch in the gut on Sunday, January 22, 2023. The closing activity the prior night was the Red/Black Game.

I participated in this activity a few years ago during a similar seminar. As I knew the objective, I had an unfair advantage. When Fred asked if anyone participated in this activity in the past, I raised my hand. Fred had me meet him in the back of the room, which I did.

I found it quite uncomfortable as Fred did not look at me as he spoke to me. He turned his head away from me as he spoke. At that time, he presented himself in a manner that represented his displeasure with me. Fred provided me with two options; sit-out and watch the game or participate but do not share the objective.

I chose to sit in the back of the room and observe the game. At the evening's closing, Fred reviewed the game's win/win concept. He assigned our homework assignment, which included drafting a story of how the way we participated in this game reflected how we function in our daily lives. Fred added that we should write for an hour.

I wanted to receive the most from this seminar, so I was

February 7, 2023 dedicated to completing each homework assignment. The fact I chose to sit-out was on point with how I participated in life, which is what I wrote about. Getting up in front of a room full of strangers and sharing intimate details about yourself is a vulnerable step. However, I was motivated to share to help myself and to help others.

Throughout the weekend, members of the seminar thanked me for my share. The story I took the time to write had the ability to help others. Also, my goal was to break through what I could do to move beyond this experience that has been haunting me. It was a brave step for me to come out of the shadows and share my story.

As I took the time to draft my story, I brought my notebook to the front of the room to read. Fred instructed me not to read from my notebook. I informed him that I took the time to draft my story, which is important to me, and I would like to read my words. With a sarcastic tone, Fred commented, you have to read your story, you dont know your story?

I reiterated that I like to write and wished to read my story. As I was a little more than halfway through my story, Fred interrupted me. He stated, Denise, is there a purpose to your story? I informed him yes and to please let me continue.

I began reading again and Fred interrupted me again with a rude and harsh tone. He scolded me in front of the other members stating that others want to share. As I knew and Fred knew as well, that was not the case. The same people shared each time, and I waited to present until most regulars presented.

After this humiliation and emotional punch to the gut, I grabbed my belongings and looked at Fred informing him, I will not let you. bully me! He gave me a less than enthusiastic shrug, which represented he did not care. In tears, I made my way through the lobby of the hotel.

To add to my humiliation, where I wanted to be less conspicuous to the hotel guests, Jenn followed me yelling for me to stop, stating this could be a pivotal moment. A pivotal moment? I was embarrassed, humiliated, and now being chased through a hotel lobby. No, this is a scarring moment.

Not my overall goal for attending PSI.

People who reach out to PSI are looking to improve themselves. Looking for resources and tools to overcome obstacles blocking their path to happiness. It was very hypocritical of Fred to preach about win/win, but not conduct himself in the same manner. How difficult would it have been to refrain from interrupting me and refrain from making rude comments directed towards me and my intimate story?

Wouldnt that have been a win/win situation? In addition, my story may have helped others. This was not Freds place to question the purpose of my story. His words ripped a scab off my wound and left an open sore.

Extremely damaging behavior from someone who has been assigned the role to help guide others. We learn from others experiences. He silenced my opportunity to share and help others. However, Fred would go on and on about his escapes, sexual encounters, his prestigious jobs, his upscale neighborhood, and fancy cars.

What is Freds purpose for this role? Is it for self-promotion?

What took place on Sunday, January 22, 2023, while at the PSI seminar solidified why I sit out in life. Watch while others enjoy the experience of life. Yet again, I took a chance, came out of the shadows, only to experience additional emotional harm.

You cannot fathom the gut-wrenching emotional pain this experience had on me. We come to PSI with little broken pieces we are trying to mend back together. Why, oh why, did Fred take it upon himself to rip me into more tiny pieces?

I am less than disappointed with my experience with PSI. My long-term goal was to continue with PSI in the advanced courses.

Due to Fred and his treatment towards me, this is no longer my goal. In addition, I am requesting a refund of the registration fee for the Basic Seminar of $795.00.

As stated, if we are not satisfied with our experience, we may request a refund. I am making this request.

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Loss:
$795
Pros:
  • Good people are looking for resources to improve their lives
Cons:
  • Inadequate facilitator

Preferred solution: Full refund

User's recommendation: Do not attend! Waste of time, wast of money!!

14 comments
Guest

Forget ever getting an apology from PSI Seminars - its always someone else not taking responsibility. ( I hope you do get an apology someday ) In the meantime, I think Kathy Quinlan Perez of PSI Seminars is too busy in her "Workshop" chatting with Shirley Hunt for guidance on how to salvage a decaying company with dwindling sales and a reputation in the public toilet.

Kathy Quinlan Perez with PSI Seminars is clueless as ever, but is now exposed that Shirley Hunt is no longer there to empower, burnish and pretend that she is capable. So the perfect test is here, will PSI Seminars make it thru all face its demise sooner than predicted?

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Whoever is running PSI Seminars, needs to take ALL the classes. Hanging on to scarcity and not refunding tuition is BAD BAD BAD for PSI Seminars reputation.

We could be making a mistake that Jane C Wilhite cares about PSI Seminars repurtation, or that she has socked away enough plunder in Florida, she could care less. Either way Folks, beware about paying for PSI Seminars outrageious tuition, your emotional connection to whatever is transitory....

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PSI Seminars claims to be in the personal development / growth business, that is marketed as a social improvement mission. PSI Seminars is failing in both.

A business or person that refuses to look within for lessons learned to grow will find itself like a hamster on a wheel. A total victim to the mass volunteer enrollment system that is its client base, it has failed repeatedly to diversify nor know how to envigorate the PSI Community. The resulting failures in locations like Denver, San Francisco, Orange County, Las Vegas , all of whom are shadows of their former self...speaks volumes to the incompetence and talent of the leadership. If you are looking for personal growth seminars, look elsewhere as this company is clueless about growth , nor able to change with the time and has no awareness of its shortcomings.

And seriously, you want to pay for self-awareness that leads to growth from PSI Seminars?

Would you dine at a vegetarian restaurant owned by folks that feast on beef ? Pay from your wallet to those who can only talk, but not walk the talk ?

Guest

PSI Seminars is in DEEP KAKA. Aging leadership needs to be brainwashed from Shirley Hunt's manipulative methods and practices.

Shirley Hunt's "marketing and personnel" methods have kept the comany stuck in la-la land. Now that Hunt is gone, this company needs to de-program its Cult marketing mindset.

Gonna be years while the cash is being drained, and new life needs to be breathed into whoever is left that clings to an outdated ideology. AVOID this company till it can show it is willing and able to fix itself, restore its honor and integrity ...or NOT!

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Time for new blood at PSI Seminars ! The Dumbed Down Duo of Kathy Quinlan-Perez and Gary Perez, need to take a personal growth seminar and ponder why their efforts at growing the seminars in the Bay Area and Orange County, over 20+ years have gone nowhere!!

Loyal, stupid and manipulative are essential traits for continued employment at PSI Seminars......somewhere in there among lessons to acknowledge, is how you treat your clients.

We, your clients, are not your marketing arm or your piggy bank !! And WE ARE NOT SATISFIED - so take your palms together or apart and start praying for better answers to save a company from impending bankruptcies and low enrollments !

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Letter to Jane C Wilhite: Your approach to marketing PSI Seminars is not working. The days of depending on glassy eyed cultish clients who slavishly enroll while you laugh all the way to the bank is over.

You have 2 months build on all your cities when it used to be once every month. That is how you tell it is not working. The clients have finally realized it is up to you. All the revial meetings - celebrations will not change the ENERGY as it is one of ABUSE and MANIPULATUON.

This is an opportunity for PSI seminars to correct its long trail of errors and client abuse. But will you change?

Of course not, you can only peddle transformation but not go thru the process yourself as a a company. What will you leave Janessa?

Guest

FRED the facilitator was there to fulfill his social calendar with glassy eye vulnerable women enamored with his pwoers to "read" their soul. Glad you did not fall for Fred and PSI Seminars manipulation thru social pressure, vulnerability, and the up and down seminar tricks they pull to yank your chain for MORE ups and DOWNS at HIGHER Prices and less value.

And you save yourself from being a groupie attending their "leadership" class as an unpaid cvolunteer selling more of this LGAT nonsense from the hippie, bell bottoms and John Lennon days. Count yourself lucky, as you escaped the cult and did not fall for their silly manipulation that swallows the naive, lost souls, looking to connect with like minded, directionless fools.

Guest

Its time for all to realize that PSI Seminars talk integrity but walks manipulation, preached win-win but lives win-lose ( as in they keep your money as the reviewer has discovered), no one is perfect but PSI Seminars, and they love giving feedback but cannot receive any feedback. If you like to pay for those who cannot walk the talk, PSI Seminars is it. Now, would you buy a Ferrari from a dealership where the owner drives a beat up clunker ??

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PSI Seminars is pretty clueless what to do about its own business, that is even after 50 years of being in business. Case in point : PSI Seminars San Francisco.

A PSI city languishing in utter agony as goes through its final death throes in the hands of Gary Perez and Kathy Quinlan.

Do not take seminars from those who can neither grow it nor revive its own business. RIP PSI Seminars San Francisco - Hunt could never pick or develop leaders and grow cities and her legacy continues in the death of PSI Seminar San Francisco.

Guest

We pray for Jim {{Readcted}} who quit a lucrative career in real estate to be Chief Revenue Officer after the post was vacated by the Queen of Manipulation and network marketing. Now his challenge is to drag a bunch of brainwashed dinosaurs mentore by Queen of Manipulation that can not have an honest conversation without looking for a way to dip into your pocket or some insidious way to penetrate the friends and families for enrollments to pay their own diminshing checking accounts.

This is a sad company, run by undying loyalty and alleginace to the cult head while taking leave of your sense and good judgement. No best sellers will ever be written about this company on leadership and marketing and authenticity. All talk and no go. Jus providing girl friend fodder for the PSI Basic facilitators strutting their ego ( they call it beingness ) in front of freked out seminar attendees.

Whole bunch of garbage and s***show.

Try Convergence Seminars instead, started by Dan {{Redacted}} and Rob {{Redacted}} who cant stand the manipulation, lies, and deceit that run rampant in PSI Seminars. !

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Jennifer G Kwd
map-marker San Francisco, California

Warn unauthorized attempts to psychologically harm and control vulnerable targets

As a delinquent teen and high school drop back in the late 90s and 2000s it was pure clean productive and pointed me in the right direction.

I am 48 now with trauma survival success, extreme achievement drive insight awareness and well develop sense of humanity. I have succeed in psychology, corrections and law and helped thousends without force or fear and patience allowing society to grow at their own pace. Today I relax and enjoy successful reflection on all my accomplishments and growth. I have survived severe mind control attempts abuse and unlawful attempts to destroy my life for no reason because Shelly thought she was the chosen one with more power and control to determine whose life should be preserved and who should kill themselves. I experienced severe and unauthorized attempts by aunatorized professionally trained fraudentelly advertising their superior thinking skills which include who should. It was *** disgusting disturbing dangerous insane narcissistic superiority that level with planned serial killing and totally irrational expectations on known vulnerable with no mercy whatsoever and completely absurd that they actually think its legal for them to victimized and kill people they dont know and that they expected execution compliance and that they are authorized by the White House to do this to innocent people they think its ok to hunt. Classic criminal thinking and absolute delusional expecting of criminal compliance. They are the most extreme predators Ive ever seen in my life and will never be able to allow themselves to interact safely with victims and public. Nor will they ever admit how dangerous they are to the public. They used to be safe but will never be safe again and must be tightly supervised in high security terrorist monitoring in Colorado be trained actually trained professional. Neither should ever be given access to children or elderly and should never be allowed to communicate with any other human or living animal or being again. They must be reported as a serious threat to the president and never allowed access to him because they will corrupt him physically and mental and wont be able to stop harming him until he is dead. Shelly has admitted to causing a disabled non threatening mental health patient to buy a gun and kill a priest on command then command him to terrorized everybody around the body. They cant even be excused as a precieved threat. Shelly is a capital murderer that Texans must kill immediately before more people die. Kathy is just as bad because she thinks she can convince people that they must kill themselves because they cant be as good as her. Both want more people dead and can kill people who want to live cause everybody wants to be them. It is so disturb and so sick its unexplainable and has to be shut down immediately and destroyed with no access to anything alive. They must be reported to secret service and absolute no access to any human or animal ever again.

My abusive was addictive to them and they wanted me dead.

I think this stuff happens when smart people become self indulgent and entitled with zero remorse or desire to kill going forward.

Recovering survivor.

Jen Gjesvold

Brave enough to fight

Subtle enough to feel the power

Self aware enough to know when to stay out of things

I hope nobody can ever convince any of you that gangstalking me is legal now and I pray that god loves me enough to keep me alive

God, please forgive this demons who dont precieve threat appropriate. Please never let anybody convince themselves this level of predatory behavior in normal and dominate. Please fix their minds and love them unconditionally but never let them hunt anybody.

My life is over and I contribute to retirement loves me without death.

I know you love and fix everybody and trust you can see the difference and in response to the command today I refuse to die and Ill never share that god ever gave you the sort of gift I have. Neither of you are ever authorized to contact any living being on this site so never come. Youre disgusting and so sick. I hope god makes you pay for trying to kill me today and for trying to brainwash me again. You cant ever contact me again. I hope god kills you without ever experiencing human again.

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map-marker Keansburg, New Jersey

Absolutely Appalling

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I took an exam at one of their testing centers, and apparently they didn't have any of the security paper they were supposed to provide me with in order to use as a temporary license. The testing center didn't have any and despite my best efforts to get it from them, they insisted that they didn't have anymore.

I decided to call their support number. One of their support agents told me in order for them to ship it to me, I must pay $50 or something along those lines. *** that! I am expected to pay again after already paying to take the test and get my temporary license?

It literally says that the testing center must provide it to me on the document they printed out on regular paper. After calling the second time and speaking with someone else, they told me everything I wanted to hear. They told me that they were bringing the issue to a higher priority status, and it was going to arrive at my house within 10 business day. A week passes and I begin to wonder how long this is going to take, so I call again to check.

I talk to another person over the phone and give them my support ticket. All for them to tell me that absolutely nothing and I mean nothing has been done yet.

*** they didn't even review the request the last agent sent. *** surreal.

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Johnathan Zwr

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| map-marker Brampton, Ontario

Warning for others

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I attended the Basic Seminar last year. The cost was pricey but I had a friend who had attended and swore by it.

I gave it a chance.

During the weekend seminar it was okay. I dont have anything negative to say, I did come to some realizations so it wasnt a complete waste.

My review is a buyer beware. Once you have completed the basic they begin to really push the PSI life course. They make it seem like this is a once in a lifetime opportunity, that to make a change you have to start within.

Then you have all the people who have volunteered (who have completed and are fully immersed in this organization) pushing it on you.

Now I regretfully gave in and decided to enrol.

There was I believe a discount if you purchased at the seminar. DO NOT FALL FOR THIS.

Had I slept on the decision I would have not done it, once you pay you will never see your money again.

Now fast forward to when the retreat is supposed to begin. There was a zoom meeting where they discussed what to expect.

Now not only did I pay over $5,000, but a week before we were notified that we were sleeping in bunk beds in a room with other people, sharing 1 communal bathroom and the scariest part was that we were not allowed to use our cell phones for the entirety of 7 days. Not even to contact family.

There had been someone on the call who was a mother and she said but what if I just want to check in with my kids at night the response was, well do you trust who you are leaving them with, then you dont need to call

You could also tell that most of the people had just finished the basic seminar.

Hearing everyone talk sounded as though they had been brainwashed. They were using the same terminology.

At this point it had been about 6 months from when I completed the initial basic seminar.

Right then and there I was beyond uncomfortable and was not okay with partaking in the retreat.

I told them I was cancelling and then I had 2 other members who shouldnt have known anything about me cancelling began message me within the hour, ironically telling me about their amazing experience.

I am now out over $5,000. No services provided just free hard earned money given to this organization who is supposed to want do good in the world and help people.

Its a business first and foremost.

Their concern is not about you but about your money.

If you are considering doing the retreat do not sign up right away. Give yourself a month to reflect and then decide.

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Guest

Stay away from LGAT seminars. Do some research online about the harmful consequences of LGAT.

LGAT examples are Klemmer and Associates, Bandera, Texas. Of course PSI Seminars, Convergence Seminars in Denver ( started by refugees from PSI Seminars ), Bruce Conching of Maui's IkePonoQuest, now adopted by Greg Kawamoto ( Another PSI Seminars refugee ) .

Bruce Conching after 3 or 4 failed marriages, 5-7 ffailed businesses had to escape to Davao, IKE PONO Phillippiness to preach his own version of LGAT - no matter how they repackage LGAT - the end result is the same pay more to stay charged up and connected until there is no seminars and money left....then the LOOOOOOOONG withdrawal process begins.... Never buy the cake just for the icing!!

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Bruce Conching, Battle for his health, assumes full responsibility for his current mental, emotional , financial and physical condition. Being stubborn, shallow with a stage persona for the massess is no substitute for taking responsibility for your health and life condition.

And no Bruce Conching, you cannot delegate it all to whoever your wife is. No more running away from responsibility, commitment - be PONO to yourself, practice some of that philosophical Hawaiian mythology on yourself, before its too late!

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Without a doubt, Bruce Conching with IKE PONO has got to be the most self-destructive person in the seminar business. Destroying friendships, marriages ( 4 !!

) , businesses and Bruce Conching's own mind body spirit . Bruce Conching does not know how to live in a world outside of some U-shaped setting with less aware participants cheering his ego on.

A showman with no life, no health, no finances, debt collectors chasing him, broken friendships and failed businesses in the wake. Bruce Conching , creator of Ike pono, should have called his seminar I " KNOW without a doubt, I am CHAOS" IKE HAUNAELE !

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Bruce Conching, IKE PONO, basically too the " I AM " and wrapped it around some coconut leaves . RE-LABEL IKE PONO is neither original nor effective. Bruce Conching sets the people around him to fail....take a close look beyond the smiling seminar faces....why is BRUCE CONCHING's KARMA Horrible?

Guest
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Check out Durango Herald news on Kimberly Zink, President of Klemmer. She delegated the responsibility of raising her son to her husband while she flew around promoting and facilitating Klemmer seminars of a world with no one left out.

Except son was convicted of armed sexual assault. Kimberly Zink blames ex-husband in the Durango Herald news article, said she was sick but healthy enough to enter contests and facilitating Klemmer seminars.. Klemmer Personal Resonsibility in Action in A world that works with no one left out, as fully exporessed and embodied in their President, Kimberly Zink of Durango, Colorado. You cannot make this tragic comedy show up !!

Klemmer Personal Mastery - wilts to nothing under the brutal scrutiny of real life situations. Get a refund from these LGAT seminars !!

Guest

Honestly it's all a scam... sorry you got fleeced as well.

But I'm glad you didn't go through all the *** I did.

Better to let the money go than to actually go to these courses... they get more manipulative as you progress.

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Hey Jane Wilhite and Janessa Wilhite - the legacy methods of network marketing spawned and fueled by Shirley A Hunt, does NOT help your company grow ! Like MLM companies that are declining and decaying, PSI Seminars is going the same way - the handwriting is on the wall.

Jane - time to practice you PSI Seminars Brand promise " PSI Seminars is the leading authority and pioneer in human potential training, teaching leadership and strategies for life success " What are PSI Seminars strategies for Growth ? Just asking for a friend , who is asking for a friend .... :-) A company in human potential that cannot outgrow its own problems while collecting money to show others how to do it...or BE it ? PSI Seminars is a joke and a SCAM !!

Go on a cruise and a wheelchair Jane Wilhite - you never figured out how to grow this company and neither will Janessa....time to fold it or let Kathy Quinlan run it into the ground. She is ready !

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Anonymous
map-marker Vancouver, British Columbia

Fastest way to change my results

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Over the years Ive taken many courses and read numerous books on self development. This was by far the best, most effective, fastest and long lasting results I have had.

It positively impacted all areas of my life. 8 years later and I still feel this way and see it as a benchmark in my life becoming what it is today.

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Johnathan Zwr

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Caution Tale

I am writing this review to share with you my own personal experience with PSI Seminars. I had attended the Basic and I do not have anything bad to say about it, it was quite a bit of money but that aside there were quite a few good moments and I met some great people.

On the last day we were given information regarding the 7-day Life Success Course, of course it looked appealing especially after being told that if you purchase before the end of the Basic you would get $1,000 off of the total amount.

There were other members who had completed the course and swore by it so I decided to go for it. Now yes, I did read that in the fine print that there were no refunds but I admit that I got consumed and influenced by the environment. Please keep in mind I was also extremely hesitant because it was still going to cost me over $6,000 but everyone kept stating that it was $1,000 less and an experience of a lifetime.

Now due to work I had to change my original scheduled week, I would have preferred a refund but I ended up changing the dates to the following month. Not even a week prior to the retreat we had a zoom conference call with everyone that would be attending.

Unfortunately following that zoom call I felt very uneasy. This wasnt due to fear of change or whatever other reasoning they had come up with. This legitimately had to do with the fact that it was in a remote area, we were notified not even a week prior information that we did not know before. We were told that we would essentially have absolutely no access to our phones and that only staff members would have access to the main line/internet.

We were also notified that the quarters we would be staying in were first come first serve basis and some rooms had double beds while others had bunk beds and one communal bathroom. If I am spending over $6,000 on a 7 day retreat, I would like to have my own room and worst case have one person to share the room with. AGAIN, not notified of this until not even a week before the scheduled retreat.

So, I sent an email to the person I had been speaking to regarding previous changes that I would not be going. I had 3 additional people contact me trying to convince me otherwise.

Something that I would think should be confidential between myself and the person I cancelled with evidently it was not.

As I did not attend the retreat, I sent numerous emails asking if I could get back some of my money. As I wrote in one of my emails this is very obviously a business and I understood them keeping a portion of what I paid BUT to keep the full amount of $6,422.08 is completely unethical.

For a company trying to promote you to hit your fullest potential and to craft the life of your dreams but take away hard earned money and not even providing any services is far beyond ridiculous.

Im leaving this review, just as a buyer beware. It is a lot of money and they do not care if you attend or not whatever development course you decide to take.

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Preferred solution: Partial refund. I understand it’s a business but to lose everything for getting nothing in return is ludicrous

3 comments
Guest

Very sorry to hear about your situation. Not Surprised though.

PSI Seminars in practice is the exact opposite of how they pretend to come across in the Seminars. Company is a shell of its former self, relies on others to promote their outdated seminars, and is willing to sue and chase employees that leave. PSI Seminars currently has a lawsuite against Rob Rohe, after more than 15 years of service, decided to spread his wings and do his own thing. What does "Win=Win" PSi Seminars do?

They vote RED and sue Rob Rohe of Convergence Seminars !!

Do not do busiess or send anyone to PSI Seminars BASIC . It is a SCAM and a CON to pump you up emotionally, and liberate nore cash out of your wallet into their pathetic company coffers ( Jane Wilhite Slush Fund ) .

Guest

Have you considered Convergence Seminars in Portland and Denver? PSi Seminar escapees that started their own gig, minus most of the *** culty cunning manipulation.

PSI Seminars is pretty much doomed with its culty marketing, aging and out of touch employees , a "I could care less just send me the check" attitude of Jane Wilhite hiding out in Florida...the company has no bench depth, and is fracturing from within. Look at the minuscule classes, the lost and directionless employees have become a reflection of the crowd they attract.

A leadership company that cannot produce leaders from within, nor how to train its employees, and alread retired mentally and emotionally attitude. Scary place to take a personal development seminar....true circus and the patients are running the asylum !!

Guest

PSI Seminars is a scam, the goal is to have you feel good so you will pay for more seminars. This company's other goal is to hang on to your money any deposits etc for as long as legally possible.

PSI seminars has *** cult like recruiting methods and archaic seminar setups. The goal is to squeeze every dime out of you, a feast for them in their seminars. is left over month old turkey salad with some bread and water. I suggest you contact a lawyer to write a demand letter, and a news station, and your local consumer advocate office.

PSI Seminars hates publicity and needs to be investigated for its cult like recruiting, business practices and questionable leadership. Hope your lawyer gets you, your money back.

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Anonymous
map-marker Vancouver, British Columbia

This Seminar is a game changer for inspiration and opportunity

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The tools and skills allowed me to see that I create all the liberty in my life. I am grateful someone asked me to attend this weekend course.

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Desirae Cxa

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They fervently claim to be honest and legit

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I took 3 of the courses, at a time in my life when I had nothing and was very vulnerable. I had to borrow so much money that honestly I was completely unable to pay back even to this day.

Yes they have some valuable Content but you can find it in any self help book. The staff are just as brainwashed as the volunteers. They all truly believe that you must buy in 100%. I had major health issues come up during these events and was told I couldn't miss any or I wouldn't get a refund.

That I'd have to retake the entire course at a later date. I ended up in hospital with a mental health issue and also had some major infections during the 90 day course that I basically had to ignore to keep going. I was constantly being pushed into things and when I tried to drop out people showed up at my house and wouldn't stop until I agreed to come back. No one ever listened to me or what I truly wanted.

If I said I couldn't afford something that wasn't good enough. They'd say I was making a choice. And that I'd never reach my goals if I didn't do everything I was told and take all the courses they offered. All the toxic people I met and all the strange things I witnessed.

I could write a book. But honestly I have to thank PSI Seminars. Because now I know my own truth and no one is ever going to treat me like that ever again.

Please if you're being coerced into taking any of these don't do it. Your friend or family member is being pushed to get others to join.

And it's not their fault. They'll be defensive because they think they're seeing value. And maybe they have. But it is not worth the emotional and financial damage, and detriment to your mental health over time.

No one is taking the time to warn people because they're "not ready" or "don't like looking inward." It's all BS. I've become far more successful since I distanced myself from this toxic establishment.

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Pros:
  • Some different points to consider
  • Lots of internal exploration
Cons:
  • Encourages spending more money by taking all the courses
  • Encourages people to go against their own choices
  • Causes people to make poor choices

Preferred solution: Nothing. I don't want to be contacted by them ever. I want to warn others and heal myself by speaking up.

User's recommendation: Stay FAR Away!

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Guest

Want to know how PSI Seminars practices its nonsensical , idealistic love fest principles? Ask them about PSI seminars and Convergence Seminars lawsuit filed in Denver !

Way to go Jane Wilhite - how to practice win -win and treat your ex-employees. The cult practices of PSI Seminars are showing its true CULT ESSENCE !! Hey Jane - didnt you steal the seminar materials from elsewhere....like you invented a ropes course, dyads and all that nonsense you peddle at PSI 7 and MLS/WLS "Leadership" class !! Total mockery of the seminars...good for them but not good for PSI Seminars eh?

Look at how PSI Seminars is SHROINKING !! Want to know why ?

Hint : LOOK WITHIN - TAKE RESPOSIBILITY - COME from ABUNDANCE = none of which your leadership team practices....!! RUN from this CLOWNFEST CULT !!

Guest

Likewise stay away from anyone associated with VISIONWORX, started by Bruce Conching from Maui. Totally duped disciple Bruce Conching started VisionWorx after leaving PSI Seminars Flock.

Total and utter failure leaving investors stranded from Maui to Los Angeles to the Phillippines.

Bruce Conching , a favorite of Jane C Wilhite is a total SCAM and CON artist. Apples dont fall far from the tree - so watch out for PSI Seminars and those who worked and used to work for this Colossal SCAM

Guest

PSI Seminars is a dinosaur, irrelevant and oblivious of the changing world and losing engagement for a customer dependent sales force. An aging and disengaged leadership that has lost touch with a changing marketplace and still peddling a "philosophy and dogma" . Look at the losing PSI Seminar areas with declining or non existent growth - San Francisco ( Bad leadership ), Denver ( leadership left to start their own venture, Honolulu ( no leadership ), Orange County ( no leadership ) And how do these PSI Seminars groupies claim to be about "growth" ?

Guest

Is this the same PSI Seminars Company that had Bruce Conching, Ike Pono Maui, as an Area Director for Orange County in the 90's? Is this the same PSI Seminars where Jane C Wilhite was Bruce Conching's best "man" at his 3X Marriage with Janet Henze ( ALSO 3X married, after taking a relationship and working for PSI Seminars !!

) ? Is this the same PSI Seminars Where Bruce Conhing, the golden boy with Vision Worx Seminars is now on GoFUND ME website BEGGING for money to renovate his bathroom? Does this PSI Seminars "stuff" actually work? IF ex-employees are in network marketing as a coach like Janet Henze, and ex-husband is begging for money on GOFUND me, why are you paying for this PSI NONSENSE?

AVOID this Seminar company like the PLAGUE ! If the sellers of this seminar company are having their life in the abyss of poverty, why are you dishing out $15K + for this LGAT nonsense? Because you dont take cocaine and spend time in REHAB like Bruce Conching who can fantasize and talk but cant do a darn thing to save his own family and marriage? Do you relishing paying for talkers, vs doers?

IF so- waste your money on PSI Seminars. You will get what you paid for!

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Bruce Conching of Makawao Maui, learned the fine art of setting others up to fail, from PSI Seminars as a "has been" Area director of Orange County. Having blown tons of white powder up his nose, while enabled by his clueless ex-wife, Janet Henz, Bruce has gone on to practice the fine art of PLD to IKE PONO , and proceeded to systematically rip ALL his business partners off.

Yes, from the PHILLIPPINES to POrange County, those who did business with Bruce Conching, ended up holding the financial bag, and useless life skills with no one to stand in front of. That is how useful PSI Seminars classess are - all hype, temporary hope, nothing substantive and a bunch of talk.

Worth the money ? Go waste your money paying for PSI Seminar classes and find out !!

Guest

Now that Shirley Hunt has finally packed her manipulative bag of tricks and moved on, can PSI seminars " right " itself and become an authentic company and finally live what it espouses, that is actually GROW? My Bet is Manipulation is embedded in PSI Seminars, and they have lied , manipulated for a few measly tuition dollars they cannot tell right from wrong, EVER !!!

Can Jim McMahan, right this ship or sink with it and go back to Real Estate when the market recovers in Marin? Hint : Clean House Jim McMahan or you will back to hanging out " Home for sale " signs in a year or so!!

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Waiting to see if Jim McMahan has an "unfulfilled recognition emotional gap" so he can fall right into the trap of manipulation set by the cult management methods of Shirley A Hunt. This soap opera should be fun.....in case you all are in Denver area, check out convergent seminars started by ex-psi Denver employees sick of the manipulation and dysfunction.

Could be better , could be worse. Always an alternative out there !

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At least Wilhite had the common sense to rename the Chief Manipulation Officer to Chief Revenue Officer. Manipulation can only limit the number of locations that grow as PSI Seminars have repeatedly discovered over the years.

Cannot grow much beyond XX revenue for DECADES!! Uh , and they call themselves a personal "growth" company ?

Results - always fair and communicates the truth. !!

Guest

What this reveiwer experienced is the inauthentic, manipulative marketing perpetuated by an MLM mindset from their ex-VP, Shirley Hunt. Marketing at pSI Seminars is called " the art of manipulation spun to sound like its in your best interest based on what vulnerabilities you shared in their seminars for the purpose of extracting more money from you to attend the next seminar, where the cycle repeats.

Now we get to witness the fallout of manipulative marketing practices come to light, and we shall soon find out whether this "personal growth " seminar company, can even figure out how to grow its business, ethically and authentically with real sustainable value.

Any bets ??? Buyer beware !!

Guest

Sounds like the reviewer experienced first hand a cult full of hype, hippies and groupies willing to sell thier souls for some recognition. Please stay away from PSI Seminars there are better alternatives out there....LOTS of them !

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Anonymous
map-marker Portland, Oregon

Pure BS!

This company is pure BS! They are not trained professionals and do more harm than good!

I lost everything! My job, car, home and not to mention the person I loved the most on this entire earth. *** you PSI! I hate you Jessie getting me involved, and for standing in everyone else's corner, and watch the person you apparently love the most struggle.

My fault for loving a skank! I truly hate you and PSI seminars!

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User's recommendation: Run!

2 comments
Guest

Janet Henze with Independent Optavia Coach can sign you up for a money making scam to reduce weight ( Basically lower your calories intake ) and you can send Optavia lots of money while she listens to all your FAT issues . But becareful with sharing your dirty laudry - Janet Henze with Optavia has a nasty fat mouth of spreading gossip without verifcation - basically a fat simpleton that married a once wealthy dude and now scraping the bottom of a barrel till social security hits.

But hey, sorry for your disturbing episodes with PSI Seminars - Janet Henze was one their Star enrollers till she woke up from her fat slumber to realize that she has been conned like the rest of us by Jane Wilhite ! Hang in there dude, it can only get better from here.

Desirae Cxa

Run far away. I'm sorry this happened to you.

Sadly your "friend" was brainwashed and you woke up. After the damage was done. How people get away with this sh. Is beyond me.

It's not your fault. You were taken advantage of.

Rise up! And be strong.

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Stephanie N Mmn
map-marker Colorado Springs, Colorado

I want my $ 15,000 back

I love how you go to the retreats to learn. We did all the cooking for 100+ people and not everyone was fed. We did construction work to build a new *** dorm. They had everyone telling you how bad you suck until you were in tears only to have them tell you how wonderful you were an hour later. Always asking for money and having a hundred people gang up on you if you said no. Literally selling gold spray painted cow *** for $50 and everyone bought one, not me because I was in "resistance" oh while I was being punished for not buying their *** I had to sit on the floor in the back of the "class" and wasn't allowed to talk, leave to *** Oh kicker is I told them I wanted to leave and to take me to the airport, nope! I pretended to be sick and they took me to one of " their" doctors who gave me a shot and some yeat infection *** there was nothing wrong, I was faking it, hoping to get somewhere to use a phone to be rescued. I finally found one spot on the "ranch" (that t I wasn't allowed to be) that had cell service. I called my husband who would come get me, except the fact I didn't know where I was and nobody would give me an answer other than Northern California.

The *** was unending. This was 15 years ago and in retrospect I should have called 911

The reason I ever got involved with these psychopaths is my boss at the time made me feel as if I didn't do it I wouldn't have a job.

I can't believe they're still in business.

Soon after they released me I heard that two of their dorms burnt down, not like they had to worry they had herds of people paying them tons of money to rebuild!

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9 comments
Guest

IKE PONO QUEST is a great seminar - it shows and helps you discover who you really are. Look at how the founder of IKE PONO QUEST seminars, Bruce Conching, helped himself to discover who he really is.

Bruce Conching as a man is physically, emotionally, financially and spirtually broken .

The reality of who Bruce Conching from Maui really is, finally showed up, to overtake who he wants the world to believe "he BE." ( Pardon the poor grammar ) I thank IKE PONO QUEST for exposing Bruce Conching for who he really is, a broken man relying on the support of other authentic hard working folks, versus who he pretends to BE in front of a seminar room. IKE PONO exposes frauds !

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Bruce Conching's , Ike Pono Maui, fantasies about being a savoior and apostle of truth just collided with his own Karma and reality of his own irresponsible, emotionally out of control, childish angry ways.....anyone surprised he has massive health issues ....?

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Is Kathy Quinlan - Pinocchio - Perz still able to walk to the office ? With shirley Hunt gone, the rug has been pulled, the curtains raised on the PSI Staff true capabilities.

Time for Seth Hendricks and Jim McMahon to perform a staff review - more than 50% of the PSI HQ staff is over 66 ...and no trained replacement - just the Hunt Blessing of competence...That competence has not stood the test of time, nor reality....

Look at those shrinking revenues , every month for over a year now...!! and oh yeah 2024 is going to be a real doozy with the type of clients PSI Seminars is famous for attracting !!

Guest

Seth Hendricks, Jim McMahan, Jane Wilhite, Kathy Quinlan Perez - do you want to be held responsible for allowing sexual predators like Courtland Warren in the workplace? California law holds employers responsible - and dont throw out the independent contractors nonsense out - we know how that ended for PSI Seminars.

Kathy Quinlan Perez is especially vulnerable to a lawsuit based on Courtland Warren's antics and actions in PSI Seminar Basics. An employer has a duty to exercise ordinary care not to hire or retain an employee the employer knew or should have known poses a risk of harm to others where it is reasonably foreseeable from the employee’s “tendencies” or “propensities” that the employee could cause the type of harm sustained by the victim. Thus, if an employer knew or in the exercise of ordinary care should have known that an employee hired and retained to perform duties involving personal contact with r vulnerable clients was unsuitable for that position because he or she posed a reasonably foreseeable risk of personal harm then, in that event, the employer can be held legally liable for having negligently hired and retained the unsuitable employee.

Sexual predators are criminals and because they are criminals and predators they can be very devious. By embedding themselves in jobs where they can gain access to helpless and vulnerable victims, the predators are more likely to be able to commit their heinous crimes without being detected and/or apprehended.

Guest
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Jane Wilhite could care two hoots about what shenannigans happen in PSI Seminars with Courtland and the female seminars. Her only interest is how many students shoveled out more money to pay for the next seminar!

What Courtland Warren does with the vulnerable emotional students is not her business.

Not ethical, professional or safe. But when did that matter to PSI Seminars ?

Guest
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As long as Courtland Warren brings the upgrade numbers from PSI Baisc to the next class , the PSI Seminars "Leadership" team could care less about ethical conduct and professionalism. That means Courtland Warren can have free run over any "intimate relationships" with attendees of this cult seminar , for as long as he wants and with as many as he wants.

Stupidity reigns among the vulnerable and clueless. A paradise of release for Courtland Warren Hey Jim McMahon - how do you like the shift from selling real estate to peddling hope to directionless lost souls drowning in guilt and resentment??

Lilyann Jjh
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This is defamation . You have no evidence of any sexual misconduct of C.

Warren, unless you yourself is a victim. In that case, I apologize .

Guest
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PSI seminars cannot get out of their own manipulative culture ! The horrible leadership at PSI seminars will tolerate unethical disgusting sexual predators on staff just for a few measly seminar upgrades!! Can Jim McMahon clean up the wilhite/hunt culture or be trapped in “ this is who we are” - we manipulate clueless people for cash!

Guest

PSI seminars best con job your hard earned money can buy! If you are gullible and easily brainwashed, take this class, you will feel the pain of your naïveté.

If you are stupid, take the class, it will make you wiser about how you spend your money. If you are guilt ridden with your past regrets and mistakes, take the seminar, it will make you feel better and have new guilt ridden friends to cry with.

If you are honest and emotionally stable, take a pass on this seminar relic. Invest your money elsewhere!

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Anonymous
map-marker Vancouver, British Columbia

Good job PSI on paying Google for the debunked article

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A waste of money and my precious time a bizarre weekend filled with snake oil con artists. I would never recommend this course to anyone.

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Guest

Psi seminars is way past its prime , best days were in the 80’s. Now led by has been geriatrics,and entitled trust fund babies, preying on the lost and gullible. Horrible management and fluffy feel good seminars….world has moved on and this company needs to meet its natural end!

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What happened with Dan Gibbons and all the Denver Graduates? Did they bail because they got tired of slaving away at ole High Valley Ranch, while PSI Seminars saves money on rennovations?

( If they ever did any ) We want to know and Rob Rohe...stalwarts of the PSI Community are bailing !

The remaining facilitators are fighting nature's call to reserve a retirement home and disappear into history !! Time for a CHANGE !

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PSI Seminars started in 1973 at the table in the dining room of Thomas D. and Jane C. Willhite in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. The company specializes in seminars on leadership, self-concept and communication in general. Today PSI Seminars offers two classes for children, three seminars for adults (the Men's and Women's Leadership Courses), a 90-day concept integration program, the 90-day Pacesetter's Leadership Dynamics program, and a one week Teen Camp. In several cities of the United States, Canada and Japan there is a Basic Seminar available to the general public.

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