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So everyone agrees PSI has destroyed too many lives to make Jane rich and now she's trying to pass the torch to her daughter. I say no more. WE need to take action. I propose the following:

1) There are not that many states that the PSI organization operates out of. I propose that the owner of this website create an electronic petition for people to sign stating they believe that PSI Seminars should be investigated for fraud (not refunding peoples money like they claim they do), tax fraud (everyone knows non-profit psi world is a scam and a tax haven for Jane but they are lazy and sloppy and have violated IRS law lets let the government know!), and FTC false advertising complaints. Here are the 11 cities that PSI operates out of in the US:

1) Denver, CO

2) Edina, Minnesota

3) Honolulu, HI

4) Las Vegas, NV

5) Los Angeles, CA

*) Orange County, CA

6) Phoenix, AZ

7) Portland, OR

8) San Diego, CA

*) San Francisco, CA

10) Sarasota, Florida

11) Seattle, WA

I propose that a bulletin board be set up on this web site, rip off reports.com, pissedoff consumer.com, wiki, facebook, twitter, and elsewhere that posts the attorney generals names, office addresses, and email addresses with encouragement to those who have been scammed by psi to file a complaint not only in their own state but all other 10 states as well. After getting floods of letters the AGs will team up and shut this evil slimy criminal enterprise down.

2) I believe that psi attendees should petition the IRS fraud hotline about PSI Seminars non-profit psi world which does nothing but provide Jane a tax shelter. Here is the link to report this shady non-profit: http://www.irs.gov/individuals/article/0,,id=106778,00.html

3) File FTC spam mail complaints and FTC complaints about PSI marketing practices (e.g., using people as their dupes to force family and friends into this cult)! Again, if enough people come forward and complain the government will take notice. To file an FTC complaint please go here: http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/

4) File a complaint in your state with the BBB: To find the complaint form in your state for your local psi office go here: http://www.bbb.org/

5) Write a letter to local news and let them know a cult is preying on viewers in their state and ask them to check out this web ste and others mentioned! Get the word out!

6) If you are really passionate, stand on a street corner of a PSI BASIC on the first night in front of the hotel conference room as people are driving in and hold a sign with this web URL and/or a sign telling them to run!!!! It's a scam!!!

7) Post the PSI Seminar content everywhere to take away the mystery and make it a tougher sell for Jane's pimps. LAy out the PSI BAsic (this is what happens on Day 1, Day 2, Day 3, and Day4), PSI 7 (Here's what happens when you arrive at the Ranch on Day 1, Day 2, etc...), MLS/WLS, Principia, etc... JAne has asked grad in 7 and beyond to please not tell people what happens with the classes (because if people know half won't attend and those that are considering it will not see the value since the whole thing is revealed)! Post what happens everywhere! EXPOSE PSI AND JANE AND HER MINIONS!

8) Let people know what PLD is, how it is designed to exploit people and the sick sales game behind it!

9) Boycott all speakers who attended OR have attended Principia. Send them emails and let them know:

"Dear [Speaker Name], It has come to my attention that you have recently done a speaking engagement at PSI Seminars Principia. Please know that I and others a part of a grass roots movement are exposing PSI Seminars for the cult and fraudulent organization that it is. Your participation in this criminal enterprise, in my opinion, shows you are not as enlightened as your books and/or videos prescribe. I will be boycotting you and all your works going forward both myself and to my friends unless you renounce PSI Seminars and stop attending and/or endorsing any and all of their events."

10) Post your personal story online and let people know what PSI is really about. Repost your story (Copy/paste) every two weeks in as many places as possible so that organaic search on Google, Bing, and Yahoo shows the true story of PSI every time.

Every true story of staff misbehavior (including volunteers under staff direction) should be posted and follow these sick people.

If we all follow these 10 steps we can get PSI shut down in next 2 years.

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Anonymous
#1390100

You all make good points.I would pay at most €1500 for all of K&A classes back in 2004.

IF at that price, it was a good deal, also need good friends to go with you.

Cannot use all that seminar jargon all the time in real life too annoying...we got good use for a while by laying down ground rules. helps but not worth the €7000 we ended up paying, each!

Also PSI seminars is trying through our company, a network marketing company to fly to California. our whole team voted NO, think they are worse than K&A. We read more about PSI seminars at :

Cult Education Institute,Large Group Awareness Training, under PSI Seminars:Legal Action

There is a thread by Jeri442, on page 20, very real and powerful, mirrors what our US people shares about Klemmer after a few months..and price is way too high.

We here in Norway and Germany learned not to hold the facilitators like "be and know it alls". We did in the beginning, but common sense returned especially with some of Klemmer's blog posts. Too idealistic.. Go check that Cult Education thread out , read Olga's post about her experience and the "emperor has no clothes" part - makes a lot of sense.

Here is our Norway and Germany team's conclusion about Klemmer Personal Mastery and our review about Advanced Leadership from a PRICE/VALUE: Looking back we are all the wiser, but if they are charging €10,000 now for Klemmer classes I would not do it, my family would not do Klemmer and my...

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Anonymous
#1390088

JC :

What do you think Klemmer Coaching Academy is?For wanna be facilitators that need to prove their mettle ..Insert their I AM here...?

Its a serious TAKE both on price and value, its an email correspondence course for coaching Klemmer psychobabble from est, PSI and lifespring...ahaahahhaha...these suckers pay for what they can get off the internet yo!

Then these Klemmer Academy "Certified Coaches" are suppose to help build "Champions Workshops", "be of service and contribution, basically unpaid field sales reps with no training but a lot of seminar jargon.

Klemmer Certified - does that mean Klemmer's Errors and Omissions corporate insurance covers these "Klemmer Certified Coaches"??

And where are they going to find clients?

If you are paying for Klemmer Coaching Academy, might as well sign up for PSI Seminars PLD, at least there is some localized support to build workshops!!Klemmer Associates Compassionate Samurais => Bold on Begging at GoFundMe, Weak on Critical Thinking, Huge Hearts and shrinking wallets - what a way to live !!

Anonymous
#1390084

Ken: Bumlink dude....trying to drop a cookie onto those that are tired of Klemmer and Associates recylced Psychobabble called Personal Mastery?

Those facilitators over there at Klemmerville are not qualified to handle mental jobs, but they keep finding desperate souls who rush to gofundme sites to pay for their next class.These "Samurais in their own minds" babble about intention on those gofundme videos and get less than 1% of their desired $10K to give to Klemmer's Cults.

Klemmer even started a Mustard Seed Fund so they can pay themselves with deserving folk that can not afford Klemmer's overpirced Advanced Leadership seminars...Klemmer can donate the tuition, dont cost more to have 90 in a class vs 91...Unreal!!

Klemmer leadership has sunk to low depths of cheap..Comp these desperate samurais so they dont pollute gofundme site with their "begging for funds to advance their personal growth so they can see the light" nonsense.

Disgusting shares from Klemmer Personal Mastery "samurais", whatever happen to victim/responsible and personal power.

Work for it !!

Weak souls - its only $10K in 3 months....!!!

Anonymous
#1378975

We are trying to start a class action lawsuit against Klemmer http://maclee.wpengine.com/klemmer-associates-class-action-lawsuit/

Anonymous
to Ken #1390162

not so easy Ken - nice Try

Anonymous
Paso Robles, California, United States #1201556

I would venture to guess that your opinion is the minority.While it is true that there are people like you who had a bad experience - it is also likely true that you aren't willing to take responsibility for your choices.

PSI doesn't put a gun to your head and they don't brainwash anyone. Your experience at any PSI event is what you make it and you can choose to change your life for the better or not. My experience was life changing AND I didn't get sucked up in the so-called brainwashing. I simply did not participate in anything that I didn't like (i.e.: PLD) and have used what I've learned in the life courses to my benefit.

And, I'm a better person for it.

Anonymous

Agree totally. Is there any way to have a class-action lawsuit against PSI seminars for former attendees to get their money refunded?

Anonymous
#456657

Steven hinton - Income Buidlers Forum and Janet Henze - Janet Henze Enterprises are out recruiting Klemmer and associates and PSI Seminar students and clients to join their new baby cults? Just beware of what you buy from ex Klemmer and Associates cult followers as well as PSI seminar employees who can be in a relationship and in denial of husband's addictions to drugs - what can they COACH you on? how to gain weight and stay in denial from Janet Henze of Foothill Ranch, CA?

Anonymous
#450395

Hope Janessa Willhite turns out better than her parents or Aunty shirley Hunt, the evil manipulative conniving man hater behind psi seminars and holding /denying refunds.

PSI seminars has no taste and facilitators and leadership have no ability to discern character and integrity...why..?

Why even bother taking classes from PSI seminars? They do not practice what they preach...from integrity of refunds to hiring littley dosanjh and turning a blind eye to LB semianrs practices is atrocious. The people at the top behave strangely, Jane willhite was best "man" for Bruce Conching and Janet McCoy - two cult promoters in Los Angeles that work for PSI. Then Bruce conching, PSI semianrs Area director for las vegas and Los Angeles and Orange county started his on again , off again coke habit..His now ex-wife Janet Henze was oblivious ( so much for awareness of others Janet Henze !), Bruce visited Betty Ford, then Jane gave him a chance to work at the Ranch leading Men's Leadership (MLS) way to go men !! Following a coke addict like Bruce Conching daimyo and running around the woods swearing allegiance to their silly eagle ring..boys will be boys. Bruce then siphoned off some japanese Graduates from his "best man" and boss - Jane willhite, to feed his own also ran seminar on maui, and ended up in a nasty lawsuit with PSI seminars. These women do fight for wants"theirs graduates" now Bruce is banished to Maui contemplating his return with his loyal follower Margaret...

How did PSI screw up the Los Angeles leadership with Jan Kempton, Greg Kawamoto, Janet Henze and Bruce conching ( grandaddy of self sabotage and BS )???

Does it make you wonder the DYSFUNCTION you are paying for ? does it make you wonder about the leadership and facilitators?? AND YOU PAY MONEY FOR THIS *** from PSI ????????????

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#450393

Hope Janessa Willhite turns out better than her parents or Aunty shirley Hunt, the evil manipulative conniving man hater behind psi seminars and holding /denying refunds.

PSI seminars has no taste and facilitators and leadership have no ability to discern character and integrity...why..?

Why even bother taking classes from PSI seminars? They do not practice what they preach...from integrity of refunds to hiring littley dosanjh and turning a blind eye to LB semianrs practices is atrocious. The people at the top behave strangely, Jane willhite was best "man" for Bruce Conching and Janet McCoy - two cult promoters in Los Angeles that work for PSI. Then Bruce conching, PSI semianrs Area director for las vegas and Los Angeles and Orange county started his on again , off again coke habit..His now ex-wife Janet Henze was oblivious ( so much for awareness of others Janet Henze !), Bruce visited Betty Ford, then Jane gave him a chance to work at the Ranch leading Men's Leadership (MLS) way to go men !! Following a coke addict like Bruce Conching daimyo and running around the woods swearing allegiance to their silly eagle ring..boys will be boys. Bruce then siphoned off some japanese Graduates from his "best man" and boss - Jane willhite, to feed his own also ran seminar on maui, and ended up in a nasty lawsuit with PSI seminars. These women do fight for wants"theirs graduates" now Bruce is banished to Maui contemplating his return with his loyal follower Margaret...

How did PSI screw up the Los Angeles leadership with Jan Kempton, Greg Kawamoto, Janet Henze and Bruce conching ( grandaddy of self sabotage and BS )???

Does it make you wonder the DYSFUNCTION you are paying for ? does it make you wonder about the leadership and facilitators?? AND YOU PAY MONEY FOR THIS *** from PSI ????????????

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